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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
| samandben |
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 21:06
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| So one day a road isn't gritted or it looks gritted but there is a patch if ice. That driver who has never allowed or thought of what is really and possibly 'going on' but hasn't even thought about it just spins on the ice all out of control with no plan or thought. I think this is what happened wi... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: How to stay safe in the snow |
| samandben |
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 20:48
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| ..........'motorists should be honest with themselves about the conditions they faced and during snow and ice to only consider driving if it was a "lifesaving mission"........ Both The Highway Code and the Driving Standards Agency err upon the side of not driving, don't they? This is all ... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: How to stay safe in the snow |
| samandben |
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 20:12
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| Ah, you beat me to it Malcolm! I was going to say that there's a great deal of appeal (for me!) in the conversation: "Hi boss, sorry I've not been in work this last 3 weeks, but as you know, it's been snowy and icy here, and being honest with myself about the conditions, I came to the decision... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: How to stay safe in the snow |
| samandben |
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 20:07
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| Where does this stop? It stops when the probable cost of your accident if you go out, exceeds the cost of the loss of productivity if you don't. One interesting perspective is the employer who will not allow his staff to travel 'on company business' in compacted snow+ice......."because the Com... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
| samandben |
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 15:00
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| I think that I wrote something in this forum, last year, about checking that my Council is doing what it says it will do in it's winter-service plan. That roads are being salted in the way that the Plan says they should salted. Just to give a taster of the sort of thing that I was afraid of, I invit... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: How to stay safe in the snow |
| samandben |
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 14:43
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| May I make another plea for PREPARATION & DECISION AGAINST any journey, if the conditions are clearly snowy and icy, please. Here's the press-statement made, recently, by a senior member of our County's policeforce (collision-investigation team) He's also President of the local RoSPA (Advanced D... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
| samandben |
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 14:27
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| Why do these people who drive so slowly on well treated surface do it in tight little convoys with only one or two lengths separation? There are some really interesting aspects coming out of this thread and I am sorry that I haven't been contributing as much lately ... There is NO specific mph that... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 17:51
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| i wish that some of the 18MPH crawlers would realise that the roads that they are doing these speeds on (usually 40MPH link roads) are actually no more than slightly damp and just because the verges might have an inch of snow on them the roads have actually been cleared....;-) Oh, G, I think that y... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
| samandben |
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 22:28
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| This winter does seem to be causing more "serious" accidents than I remember hearing about ever before (even the hard one of 1982/1983) but wonder what the cause of it is. Thanks for the reassurances, G. However, I won't feel better until some changes are made and I'm applying appropriate... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 17:45
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| Ok fellow, I think that the video fully vindicates my earlier view..................it's not possible to drive safely when there is ice about on the roads. There is no safe driving-speed where ice is concerned. Particularly if the journey had been dry and 'ice-free' up to the point that it changed w... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
| samandben |
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 21:06
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| .. the well established use of coloured, ice-prediction maps, which show roads coded by colour according to risk? The Rush wrote: an ice prediction roadmap,............... if you'd point me in the direction of an example. My pleasure........... http://www.wsi.com/eu/datasheets/WSIOpenRoute.pdf ....... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
| samandben |
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:28
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| Not that it's directly applicable to your [area of] experience, S&B, but ... 1- No. 2, 3, 4, 5- see 1. The only advice most Amerikans get as motorists regarding winter driving comes from tv and radio newscasters. Whenever the weather will affect road &/or traffic conditions, either the weat... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
| samandben |
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:25
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graball wrote: Sorry, can't remember if i've replied or not but the answer is , No, I have never seen leaflets advising on winter driving.
Cheers G.  I've added your experience to my responses summary. Can I pester you and ask if you would put my questions to your friends & family, please? |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
| samandben |
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:17
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| Cheers M. :clap: The affect of time on the memory is also an important factor to my researches...............I'm trying to compile info about motorists' perceptions of what info is available to them. Giving the Highways Agency some feedback from the public will help them to question how, where &... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 20:32
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I'm really disappointed that only a few people have replied to my questions.  Can't understand why, can you folks? |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
| samandben |
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:11
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| [quote="samandben] May I ask the Forum (+ask as many of their nearest & dearest + friends, please) the following questions,again : During the 2008/9 winter period: 1) Did you see any leaflets advising motorists about winter-driving? 2) At which location(s) did you see such leaflet(s)? 3)Whi... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 18:38
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| During the 2008/9 winter period: 1) Did you see any leaflets advising motorists about winter-driving? 2) At which location(s) did you see such leaflet(s)? 3)Which authority producd the leaflet(s)? 4) What was your opinion about the leaflet(s)? 5)Have you any suggestionsto make about 1)to 4), above?... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
| samandben |
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 17:11
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| In fairness, I did see a stack of them at the petrol station at Rheged last winter - also (I think) at Tebay services. Cheers M. Could you ask your nearest+dearest and friends for answers to my questions too, please? I'm trying to get this info for 2 reasons. a) to give back to Highways Agency an o... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 20:58
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| About the challenges of producing a leaflet which engages winter-motorists .....engagement is the essential but missing ingredient. I'd like to repeat my view that even at careful driving-speeds, icy roads make vehicle-control and non-injurious collision unlikely. Ref your organisation's preparatio... |
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Forum: Improving Road Safety Topic: Do Winter Drivers need to be better informed? |
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 21:37
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| 1) (Apologies, if I'm repeating myself..................Imagine if, every time the Traction Control or Stability Control approached its intervention threshold - just before individual calipers started clapping rotors - and it was 41°F / 5°C or colder, the on-board traction enhancement resin would b... |
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