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 Forum: General Chat   Topic: More barking mad ramblings from T2000

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 09:34 

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Gizmo wrote:
Maybe everyone who uses the roads should carry some kind of 3rd party insurance.
I agree, for cyclists anyway. I have it several times over, being a member of some organisations which carry such insurance for members.

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: More barking mad ramblings from T2000

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 23:19 

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Gizmo wrote:
Roy Gardiner wrote:
As it's told to me it does affect motorists behaviour in France; stay out of their way or else!
Also remember France has DOUBLE our fatality rate on the roads. So maybe it does not work.
We don't have to adopt all their policies :D; I'm told in this area it's effective.

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: More barking mad ramblings from T2000

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 21:45 

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Nobody drives in the expectation of hitting pedestrians, so I can't see how a change in the law of this kind would affect driver behaviour. But it might make pedestrians and cyclists take more risks in the vicinity of motor vehicles. Motorists unaffected, coz they're responsible people, pedestrians...

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: More barking mad ramblings from T2000

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 21:34 

Replies: 32
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SafeSpeed wrote:
There's EVERY reason to expect casualties to increase.
Which is a showstopping reason. Do you have citable evidence? To repeat, I understand the motorist-presumption system to work well elsewhere, like France; is this wrong?

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: More barking mad ramblings from T2000

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 20:51 

Replies: 32
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We already have loads of road users who thinks others are responsible for their safety. That's a very bad thing ,and these suggestions tend to confirm and extend the idea. Huh? For drivers it does the opposite. The message to drivers is 'look out, you will be held responsible unless you can show th...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Roadcraft Page 11

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 20:31 

Replies: 35
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To be clear; I made the number up just for the purposes of the argument. I gave up 24 years ago... ...I watched my father die of lung cancer 8 years ago. The crazy thing his father died of Pneumonia after years of bronchitis. My Dad died of lung cancer in 1981, six weeks from at work to box, age 57...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Roadcraft Page 11

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 20:08 

Replies: 35
Views: 15964


A smoker is (say) five times more likely to get lung cancer than a non-smoker; but you cannot point at any individual and say 'You'll get cancer'. According to recent reaserch smokers stand a 50% chance death from a smoking related illness. To be clear; I made the number up just for the purposes of...

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: More barking mad ramblings from T2000

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 19:51 

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One of the causes of danger on our roads comes from the mistaken idea that others are responsible for our safety. Not what I am suggesting. The consequences of hard/soft contact are unequal; the inattentive pedestrian will be injured, the driver likely not. Where blame cannot be apportioned (becaus...

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: More barking mad ramblings from T2000

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 19:04 

Replies: 32
Views: 16315


..make it easier for non-motorised road users to claim injury damages from drivers who hit them. ...Still, fair enough if they make it as just as easy for vehicle owners to claim from pedestrians and cyclists who cause damage or injury, whether they themselves suffer or not. Law to assume the 'big ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Roadcraft Page 11

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 18:49 

Replies: 35
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The logical non-sequitur, implied by the way the claim is presented, is that any individual driver who "tends to disagree" has a higher accident risk than one who agrees. That is, as Paul said, patent nonsense. Correct. A smoker is (say) five times more likely to get lung cancer than a non-smoker; ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Roadcraft Page 11

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 18:30 

Replies: 35
Views: 15964


Roy, I'm disappointed and a little concerned that we've ended up in this position OK, I'm new here; I'll have another go. You said Roadcraft page 11 is clearly piffle - it's so obvious to me that it's piffle that I feel no need to verify the fact. If a study was done that purports to justify the pa...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Roadcraft Page 11

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 10:13 

Replies: 35
Views: 15964


I don't accept your examples. If you said to me, "Brighter light bulbs use more voltage" , I would say "Sure!". But if you then said "Wanna bet?" I would turn it down, and so would anyone who's ever been caught by counter-intuitive stuff before. But on a unicorn in your garden I'd bet all I could b...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Hello - my views on speed and safety

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 09:58 

Replies: 16
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Gizmo wrote:
SafeSpeed wrote:
ONNAT!
:?: :?: :?:
Ditto; not found http://www.acronymfinder.com/ or via Google.

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: Is advanced driving training worth it?

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 09:40 

Replies: 17
Views: 8683


Just found this on ROSPA Advanced Drivers website, article about use of automatic gearboxes. "Stops in traffic, at junctions and at traffic lights leave the selector in D. There is no need to move into neutral, as no damage will result. You may wish to set the parking brake if the pause becomes a w...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Roadcraft Page 11

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 09:20 

Replies: 35
Views: 15964


I don't think we're talking "counter-intuitive" here. I think we're talking about: "the moon is made of green cheese"! I'm a very evidence based thinker, but there's a bloody limit! :D You find the 'agree/disagree' test so unbelievable you wouldn't accept it even on evidence. By the same token if I...

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: Is advanced driving training worth it?

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 21:28 

Replies: 17
Views: 8683


Thanks everyone for the helpful advice; looks like I've misunderstood how IAM works, too. I'm pleased that the attitudes here are mostly like mine, I expected to get told I was way off mark. Several have said 'no experience' of automatics; I'm told by a senior officer in the Met that autos are now t...

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: Is advanced driving training worth it?

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 19:52 

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This is not a troll, at least is not intended as such. My daughter will shortly be 17. So as she'll be practicing with me I thought it worthwhile to get advanced training for myself, maybe take the IAM test. I have so far had one lesson. The instructor pointed out many things which could be improved...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Roadcraft Page 11

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 19:31 

Replies: 35
Views: 15964


Roy, I hesitate to say this, but I REALLY don't think this is worth the trouble. Roadcraft page 11 is clearly piffle - it's so obvious to me that it's piffle that I feel no need to verify the fact. If a study was done that purports to justify the page, then that study is obviously piffle too. Actua...

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: About our visitors

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 19:18 

Replies: 103
Views: 342636


Roy Gardiner. Keen cyclist. Member of several major cycling organisations, competitor, commuter (much of the time) Essex-City and West End for 20 years. Webmaster for the League of Veteran Racing Cyclists. Keen motorist. Past owner of 1971 Lotus Elan, 1981 BMW M535, now own 1992 Lexus LS400, 1981 Da...

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: Is Paul Smith the Richard Dawkins of road safety ?

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 18:40 

Replies: 48
Views: 22190


...It particularly saddens me that Paul has managed to alienate a lot of cyclists. I am a very keen and commited cyclist, but Paul has not alienated me. Still, I'm new here :D. Cyclists and motorists are not, IMO, enemies. I find those that think so, in either lobby, are impervious to reason.
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