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 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Middle lane hoggers

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 14:16 

Replies: 463
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Cooler wrote:
I ride a Kawasaki


Good choice of bike. I too rarely see people slowing to allow the slug-trapped to escape. Most people are more like "civil engineer". They think "you're stupid enough to get into that mess, don't ask me to help you out."

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Middle lane hoggers

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 14:11 

Replies: 463
Views: 159589


So if you were in L2 and someone else was 'boxed in the slug lane', but indicating right and clearly wanting to change lanes, you would ignore them? If you saw a potential accident unfolding ahead and by moving over a lane you could allow someone ELSE to avoid an accident, you wouldn't act? Thanks,...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Middle lane hoggers

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 13:24 

Replies: 463
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Poor driving may lead to getting boxed in however it is not just the L1 vehicle that is involved. Drivers in L2 that do not anticipate the need for a L1 car to move out to overtake a slower vehicle are at least equally at fault. That would indicate that “civil engineer” hasn’t enumerated all the po...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Middle lane hoggers

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:26 

Replies: 463
Views: 159589


The safest way to proceed is to cooperate with other road users. Yes, but (for the individual) only if other road users are a risk to him. Wherever another road user has no impact on the individual, he can happily ignore them and their wishes, from his safety perspective. In some ways, it’s safer n...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Middle lane hoggers

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:49 

Replies: 463
Views: 159589


What I didn't see much of, was cars pulling in behind the slower moving trucks in L1. That's because the slug trap is the slow lane, and nobody wants to drive there. There's no mystery there. We need to forget this obsession with lane switching. It leads to “lunging and lurching”, which is BAD driv...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Middle lane hoggers

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:41 

Replies: 463
Views: 159589


So now, what used to be called poor driving has been given a series of names like 'slug trap'. thats just your own stupid fault and is a 'sympton' of the condition known as POOR DRIVING. Let’s not shoot from the hip, here. It’s far better to understand the condition, and only then attribute blame. ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Vandalised Gatsos

 Post subject: Re: Vandalised Gatsos
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 20:38 

Replies: 106
Views: 37365


Gixxer wrote:
ask all the cons you are guaranteed to find walking all about the place what they think of life inside.


Yes, perhaps it would be more fitting to give the petrol bombers a 10 year driving ban once they get out. I'll mention it to my MP - maybe we can have them classified as terrorists!

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Vandalised Gatsos

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 20:29 

Replies: 106
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civil engineer wrote:
Do fly tippers vanadlise Gatsos?


No ... fly tippers aren't that dumb.

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Ruth Kelly's car share lane

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 20:26 

Replies: 44
Views: 20768


Johnnytheboy wrote:
I think ...


Are you sure about that?

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Ruth Kelly's car share lane

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 18:48 

Replies: 44
Views: 20768


Johnnytheboy wrote:
you don't talk that much nonsense.


Thanks for being nice, but I already knew that! My preference is not to spend money on making things worse all the time.

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Middle lane hoggers

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 18:40 

Replies: 463
Views: 159589


civil engineer wrote:
I thought a slug trap was a yoghurt pot buried in the flower bed with some beer in it.


I'm sorry - I assumed you knew about conceptual metaphors.

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Middle lane hoggers

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 17:25 

Replies: 463
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Johnnytheboy wrote:
www.middlelanemorons.com


Yeah, let's increase its hit count to double figures, eh!

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Middle lane hoggers

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 17:21 

Replies: 463
Views: 159589


But surely its all simply a matter of keeping left unless overtaking ? There is no benefit for a specific driver to do that, just the three negatives (switch-risk, slug-traps and side-shuffles at the ramps). The driver does not help himself by moving over. It only benefits other drivers, who he car...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Vandalised Gatsos

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 15:01 

Replies: 106
Views: 37365


Mad Moggie wrote:
we view this not as wanton vandalism but as a form of perhaps misguided protest.


Yeah, we should be sorry for the petrol-bomb cry-babies, they had a rough childhood etc. But we don't do "political correctness" around here.

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Vandalised Gatsos

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 14:42 

Replies: 106
Views: 37365


civil engineer wrote:
who are?


Vandals, fly tippers ... you know the sort.

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Ruth Kelly's car share lane

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:50 

Replies: 44
Views: 20768


Newbury showed that more roads don't work, so that's out of the frame. With respect, this is not true. The Newbury bypass makes a huge difference to South Cost to Midlands traffic and journey times. The highway review report seems to ignore a major problem - bottleneck shuffling. Any removal of the...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Vandalised Gatsos

 Post subject: Re: Vandalised Gatsos
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:04 

Replies: 106
Views: 37365


too many Porridge repeats! I don't think so, my father in law finished serving a 5 stretch last August...he had everything I mentioned above & more within 3 months of starting his sentence. Two things to say about this. First, who would believe a crook? And second, blokes are known for never me...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Ruth Kelly's car share lane

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:28 

Replies: 44
Views: 20768


But as far as "grasping" commuters go - surely they get cheaper houses and then just spend more on commuting? Yes, it's completely pointless, isn't it? Worse than pointless, because they do the locals down in the villages they live in by forcing up house prices and do the locals down in t...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Ruth Kelly's car share lane

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 22:00 

Replies: 44
Views: 20768


If it was JUST Mr. Tintern, then there wouldn't be any congestion I know... there's not enough road to go around. And if we made enough road to go around now, there's still not enough road to go around in future because people commute further and further, soaking up any advantage, and costing the e...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Vandalised Gatsos

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 21:25 

Replies: 106
Views: 37365


civil engineer wrote:
Do you regularly think of men on their first night in prison?


These aren't men, in the normal sense of the word. They are sneaky, overwrought, stupid bastards.
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