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 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speeding Penalties Consulatation - URGENT

Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:32 

Replies: 29
Views: 16321


Please feel free to comment. I will email the DFT with this as it is unless convinced otherwise. ====== Question 1 Do you agree with the Government's view that there is a case for fixed penalties for speeding to be more graduated, with higher penalties for more serious categories of speeding, and lo...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speeding crashes - a little challenge

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 15:00 

Replies: 93
Views: 38109


What is special about speed that makes you say that we should not argue about what people ought and ought not to do . That is politics, after all! We can make laws about what people ought and ought not to do, and enforce the laws technically. I was rather thinking of human nature in general not nec...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speeding crashes - a little challenge

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 19:10 

Replies: 93
Views: 38109


How about this: excessive speed - within and above speed limit - directly or indirectly causes a negligeable proportion of accidents (say). However the severity of outcomes is indisputably directly related to impact speed. So, whether you recklessly flatten a bus queue at 30 or 50 mph the result is ...

 Forum: Road Safety, Speed Camera and Policy News   Topic: Electronic Speed Warning Signs

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 17:51 

Replies: 1
Views: 2980


I think that it is not surprising that electronic warning signs are more effective at illiciting a positive reaction from the driver than speed cameras and that the effect does not 'wear off'. It's about respect. Show respect and you will get respect back. Disrespect breads resentment and contempt. ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: From Page: Steve Thomas 2

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 18:50 

Replies: 297
Views: 154800


who are you? Honestly, I have nothing to do with the ‘other side’ whatsoever and it is not certainty that I crave. I'm just Joe Average, with stronger than average views on the human condition. The bottom line is that sports car brigade are no more free to speed in their fancy cars than they were i...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Another side effect

 Post subject: Re: Another side effect
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 18:32 

Replies: 4
Views: 3006


I note that the A303 Ilminster bypass in Somerset has recently been remarked in this way (it was previously two wide lanes where people would overtake "down the middle"). It will be interesting to see how this does in safety terms. It's a much flatter road, with no cameras, and when I drove it rece...

 Forum: General Chat   Topic: Collision today (non-injury... TFFT)

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 18:16 

Replies: 30
Views: 17777


I have recently switched back from car to bicycle as my means of commuting (last time I regularly rode a bike was in sunny USSR so that gives a clue how long ago). The stopping distances are not too bad on these things, but I find that I do not ride with my hands on the brake levers, ever ready to s...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Speeding because your being followed too close?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 18:15 

Replies: 9
Views: 6083


basingwerk wrote:
That is why I am in favour of real-time monitoring. People like them should be weeded out long before things get this bad.


BW, you have been converted finally :D . Real time monitoring by traffic plod you mean? Until the Super-Camera arives that is :lol:

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 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: How are speed cameras meant to work?

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 18:02 

Replies: 169
Views: 70166


This appears to support my hypothesis: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3573912.stm ad It indicates that there is a strong correlation between risk and distance, but does it also support your hypothesis that there is a correlation between penalty points and distance?<..> No I don't think it does...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: BIBs get big brother first

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 18:19 

Replies: 111
Views: 52230


The above <lines on psychological evidence> strikes me as a rather unscientific approach To me, psychology is a remarkably inexact science, and opinions on such things as 'natural speeds' are suspect. When I was 17, the natural speed of the local roads was 115 mph, the top speed of my Avenger GT mo...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: How are speed cameras meant to work?

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 17:09 

Replies: 169
Views: 70166


It is worse than I thought! Comparing the ratio of annual mileage with that for collision involvement as a driver, female drivers account for a quarter of total mileage but a third of all injury accidents (Taken from DfT website: http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_mobility/documents/page/dft_...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: How are speed cameras meant to work?

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 16:29 

Replies: 169
Views: 70166


<..> As for women drivers; their lack of testosterone may also be a factor - they seem to be more social drivers than men, and I expect they carry less risk per mile. It would be interesting to see the stats on the proportion of women drivers fined for speeding versus the proportion of male drivers...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Mis- Use Of Headlights?

Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:44 

Replies: 14
Views: 8912


Certainly when driving in Eastern Europe and as far as Russia, headlight flashes mean 'cops ahead'. Often the nice copper will let you off with a cash fine only saving you the delay and paperwork, the snag is you don't get a receipt and the treasury doesn't get the cash :wink: Here's a popular joke ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Electronic driver aids

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 17:16 

Replies: 35
Views: 17620


Yes, specially with modern cars, which isolate the driver from road sensation feedback and give a false sense of security. I've looked for data to support this assertion. One would expect that the smoothest quietest cars would be driven fastest and also have the greatest accident involvements. Righ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: BIBs get big brother first

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 14:41 

Replies: 111
Views: 52230


Another story, on biometric keys this time. http://www1.computing.co.uk/features/1155997 The actual article implies that, this autumn, secure mobile files will go on sale that use advanced finger print biometric technology to prevent theft. If they are fitting them in phones (a well known target fo...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: BIBs get big brother first

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 17:12 

Replies: 111
Views: 52230


<snip..>I have been ignoring the possibility that by slowing down the average/below average drivers to below 'natural' speed, you may increase accident rate/average severity. I have done this on the following count. Bringing such parameters into the discussion introduces many new concepts on which ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: BIBs get big brother first

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 17:01 

Replies: 111
Views: 52230


If road accidents are confined purely to psychology, I would be happy enough to treat them via public service ads, signage, standards education and what have you. Indeed, this has a role to play, and one of my justifications for supporting limits and their enforcement is that they reinforce a commo...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Reply from Safe Speed For Life

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 17:48 

Replies: 8
Views: 6332


Prof Stradling in his report wrote:
Three quarters of drivers who received speeding tickets were currently in employment, less than 5% were unemployed. They were from wealthy rather than poor households, 20% were from households with an annual income of over £50,000.

How could speed cameras fail then :wink: Ker-ching!

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: How are speed cameras meant to work?

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 15:47 

Replies: 169
Views: 70166


Now that everybody is getting caught all the time, it is not necessary to dish fines and points so heavily – a progressive approach can be taken, depending on how much over the limit(s) you were. The punishment might be a fine dependent on your disposal income and assets, so that the toffs get it i...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: How are speed cameras meant to work?

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 15:03 

Replies: 169
Views: 70166


Incentives and rewards are the basis for learning and self-improvement, and to treat everyone as an imbecile (in ANY circumstance) just in case they might be one removes the incentive for self-improvement as one's skills and abilities will never be recognised and rewarded How would your proposed sy...
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