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 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 21:27 

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Where on earth did he say that? Are you reading these posts because you seem to drifting in and out but making some very strange comments! Oh, I'm reading them all. Go back through the thread and you'll see exactly where I am coming from. The question was asked about driving along a road that had h...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 18:16 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


So B Cyclist, why is a road that was safe at 60MPH yeasterday (70MPH pre 1975) only safe at 40MPH today? * You seem to have missed the point. Why does a road that never had a speed limit on it now have one? (a) councillors' antipathy towards motorists has increased over the years, and (b) changes i...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 00:58 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


graball wrote:
So B Cyclist, why is a road that was safe at 60MPH yeasterday (70MPH pre 1975) only safe at 40MPH today?

*


You seem to have missed the point.

Why does a road that never had a speed limit on it now have one?

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 17:38 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


So tell me Abercrombie, if you were safely doing 60mph yesterday in a :60: you know of in your area but today they have changed it to a :40: does that mean 24 hours ago you were taking more risk and in need of greater skills? Did you feel out of your comfort zone yesterday? Why would you then moder...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 17:49 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


No. My original post clearly stated that the turning was near a bend. Those drivers with an inflated opinion of themselves will be able to see (round the corner) that the road is clear and therefore choose a faster speed. I see it every day on the roads. Supermen Numpties who can see round corners. ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 15:31 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


No - a pulling-out because the time gap in the distance they can see is enough if the driver coming round the corner is doing 30. A driver thinking that the person is pulling out without looking when there is nothing to see is showing up the "me" attitude of that driver. If someone pulls ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 22:15 

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Views: 112092


That has never been the message of Safe Speed. It has been portrayed as such by those seeking to discredit it, but having heard Paul Smith speak many times on the radio I do not believe that is the conclusion the ordinary driver in the street would have reached about his message. Speed cameras and ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 21:29 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


You predicted exactly what I would say: a fast & competent driver would not be going too fast past a side turning with waiting traffic, in case the waiting traffic proved to be a pulling-out-without-looking numpty . As discussed above, any road user who thinks they have nothing else to learn is...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 20:20 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


you can predict what the competent but fast drivers are going to do I'm not so sure you can. I'm waiting to turn out of a side turning onto a road. I only have a certain amount of road visible to me. All the indicators to me are that this is probably a 30mph area. A driver that thinks they are safe...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:42 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


The answer to the question appears to be that everyone is a numpty driver at some point. Some more so than others. I shouldn't be surprised given the make-up of posters on here, that having the wrong lights on, not indicating, being in the wrong lane and so on and so on are all numpty traits but sla...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 20:19 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


"Driver's Alliance"? I'll bet they are totally independent when it comes to assessing the figures. :roll:

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 13:33 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


Far more tax is collected from motorists than is spent on the roads, use some of that. I'm afraid that is unproven. Besides, do you really have a wish to turn the UK's Tax Regime upside down? e.g. Old people hardly contribute any tax, yet they cost billions. I say we should take the money away from...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 13:27 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


I'd agree with malcolmw and others; your numpty is someone not very good at driving, with very little awareness of whats going on around them, generally someone I figure has no interest or enjoyment from driving, it's a conveyance, a mere requirement to achieve their ultimate objective, eg to visit...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 15:03 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


Abercrombie wrote:
We've heard a lot of ideas about training
"numpties" (if we knew their names!), yet no-one wants more regulations nor do we want to pay anything out.


That seems a good summary!

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Do I have to use the brakes?

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:09 

Replies: 23
Views: 10112


Does any one remember an "improved brake light" that was offered in the after market many years ago? It consisted of two triangular red lights which illuminated when you lifted off the accelerator giving an earlier warning of braking. I think that there was a switch on the clutch so that ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Plaid Cymru's leader banned for 101mph

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 01:11 

Replies: 8
Views: 3787


dcbwhaley wrote:
Johnnytheboy wrote:
Is a 28-day ban pretty lenient for 101mph?


Not if he was in a Porch :evil:


Yeah. He'd have had the damage to pay for too. Mind you, what pillock built a Porch on the middle of a straight bit of road?

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: SafeSpeed - what kind of campaign is it?

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 01:09 

Replies: 199
Views: 57872


Big Tone wrote:
So where's B cyclist? Although, to be fair, he's got a lot of stuff to take on/reply to...


Oh, he felt that humble pie had been served to everyone and he wasn't going to eat it on his own. :bighand:

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: Those rising bollards again

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 01:07 

Replies: 20
Views: 10981


http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/search/?searchterm=bollards&x=7&y=11 I will warn Manchester councillors .. if the settings have malice aforethought in settings - you will be in serious trouble., Make sure the settings are correct as all evidence to date and compared with other areas ...

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 01:06 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


toltec wrote:
B cyclist wrote:
it isn't as simplistic as that.


Few things seldom are. Whatever you do to tax some are going to be worse off and/or consider it unfair.

Nice bit of topic drift going now ;)


I know. You'd better tell Johnnytheboy that though. :wink:

 Forum: Speed, Safety, Driving and The Law   Topic: What is a numpty driver

 Post subject: Re: What is a numpty driver
Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 22:28 

Replies: 322
Views: 112092


Far more tax is collected from motorists than is spent on the roads, use some of that. I'm afraid that is unproven. Besides, do you really have a wish to turn the UK's Tax Regime upside down? e.g. Old people hardly contribute any tax, yet they cost billions. I say we should take the money away from...
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